IPnions Beyond Just Coverage

No Marketing No Cry
by Aner Ravon
Wednesday April 26th 2006, 3:28 pm
Filed under: web 2.0, business

I owe my recent acquaintance with John Sviokla’s blog (bio here) to Guy Kawasaki. The key posting that broke the ice for me was Marketing Remix (with Antony Paoni), which has landed on an astonishingly fertile mindset. I would not attempt to summarize the entry, you should take the time and discover for yourself. The essence, though, is with suggesting an observation and an analysis to the rapidly changing marketing paradigms in this new world 2.0 of ours, a world in which all information is accessible and in which peer to peer communications is always available and immediate.

We all know the examples. Compare buying a picnic table to what it was like only 10 years ago. Back then, you would probably go to Home Depot over the weekend and buy a table. If you happen to be not as lazy as I am, you would probably make a phone call or two to a friend beforehand, preferably to one whose picnic table hosted you at one particular point you remember. Today, you first go to eBay during work hours, Google during commercials, then through some consumer report sites, your IM buddy list and retail chain websites. At the end you can either purchase online or go to the near office depot, but that by itself would not secure their purchase. It very well could be that you would use Home Depot as your window shopping helper, then go back home and order online. Not to save money necessarily, but to beat the system. Where does that put Home Depot? Who’s their competitor? What should their marketing strategy look like? What should the marketing strategy of their online competitor look like?

This havoc requires totally new marketing thinking and John Svioka suggest a few simple tools. Instead of the traditional 4 Ps (product, place, promotion, price) he suggest new 4P’s  - changing Place to Presence; Promotion to Persuasion; Price (static) to Price (dynamic); and Product to Personalization.  John’s explanation of these factors is well constructed and eye opening. I’ll leave that to you.

Now how do we apply new marketing techniques when it comes to web 2.0? This is one respect in which web 2.0 services seems like a riddle not yet solved. As a matter of fact, it seems nobody has a freaking clue. We’re all running around like ants trying to figure it out and look stupid in the process. It almost seems as though the right strategy is to be ignorant and have none (Yossi Vardi anyone?). 

A few reminders: 

1. Penetration strategy? - Getting on Techcrunch! What can I say, that’s few 100k page views per day for a week or so which should translate to a few 1000s of sign ups. Very effective if you get there, but what if you don’t?

2. Target markets? Segmentation? No need. The new philosophy is “let me do a product for myself, there must be millions like me out there. They are my target market”

3. Long term strategy? Forget about that! You have a silver bullet anyway. Don’t spend anytime thinking about tomorrow, focus on today. Stickiness? Retention? Switching costs? Not important! I need to invent new stuff for tomorrow anyway and my 22 year old engineer is already working on it.

4. Business Model? The internet is free! So how do we make money? Adsense! Woo-hoo! That was easy, wasn’t it?

5. Quality? Support? Maybe…right now we are at perpetual beta. I’ll think about it when I’ll have millions of users.

6. Media and PR? What are fellow bloggers for? I have been kissing their asses for so long, now it’s their turn to kiss mine. Check out my Alexa!

And on, and on, and on. The new marketing war is about getting in your face first and if we put our serious mask on then it does represents a genuine need. In a world of exponentially growing information everybody gets lost. And when you get lost you appreciate nothing more then finding a friend. We all follow Techcrunch because it makes us feel nice and cozy in a web 2.0 mess. We all search Google because we know it’s probably an acceptable first step to anything. No wonder web 2.0 entrepreneurs are not concerned with product, price and positioning. Nobody seems to care about these anyway when the first need is to reach safe harbor. What you should be concerned with is getting in people’s faces and that’s it.

So should we burn the marketing books and enjoy the chaos? It’s kind of nice when its all about instincts and not about education. It’s definitely easier this way. But it seems overly shallow even if you subscribe to the old “billion flies can’t go wrong” half truth. Yes, there is a lot of virgin excitement we all feed from. Yes, a new information echo-system still needs to shape, one system in which Techcrunch and the like play a role but are not the only players.  But it will happen, I have no doubt. Over time. People do get wearier of the overflow of trash and will start hand picking favorites, developing selective taste and becoming much more quality sensitive.  It happens all the time and in many so-called web 2.0 territories it is happening already (I happen to think MySpace will be gone sooner then people think and join its brothers in crap heaven). This does not mean old marketing techniques will re-apply. The Picnic table example will only become more severe and the current information overflow will only steep.  Home Depot has a hell of a problem to solve. But marketing in an essence isn’t going anywhere, on the contrary, it is becoming a more competitive playground. One that will separate the men from the web 2.0 boys and in a shorter time then most people think. 


Aner Ravon

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A Comment by Oren Friedman

Oddly enough, I spent the better part of last week attending Marketing Sherpa’s Email Marketing Summit (I strongly recommend their marketing newsletter http://www.marketingsherpa.com/) in Chicago.
After spending 3 days with top marketers from F500 (and smaller) companies, I think I can safely report back that the 4 P’s are alive and kicking…
Search engines, RSS, wireless, web2.0, etc - are considered new marketing channels, which are integrated into overall marketing strategies. And unlike the Blog you referenced, and in-line with your “reminders”, the key phrase used at the conference was “test, test, and test some more”. So yes, marketers are constantly testing what works, and what could work better, and are deconstructing these new channels/mediums, incorporating the results into the overall marketing strategy, which, unless you happen to be a web2.0 company, is still concerned with the real world as a whole.

My point? Just because we think the world has changed does not necessarily means that’s the case. The marketing framework can easily learn to deal with new channels, and market research and analysis will determine what constitutes “best practices”.

04.27.06 @ 6:40 pm

A Comment by Tamar

Your comment about getting lost in the sea of information is one I totally identify with, and which has also got me wondering: in this analysis of the “new marketing”, where does an analysis of the “new consumerism” come in?

After all, the same mechanisms (eBay, Google, etc.) that start out offering me consumer-*independence* end up confusing and overwhelming me. I want my decision making capabilities back! Ultimately, I need a finite set of possibilities that I actually understand from which to choose according to my needs. This is what sends me back to the nice, small, shop around the corner with the nice old man behind the counter who remembers me and who I can consult. So in that sense, the “getting in people’s faces” strategy is not enough. You also have to get people to understand what you’re offering them, and why they need it, and why it’s good value for money. And you have to get them to *trust* you.

04.30.06 @ 12:18 pm

A Comment by John Sviokla

Aner, I think the problems you raise are interesting ones. One way I think to navigate the world of marketing today is to ask youself what is the business model that will help to extract the value that is created. In the case of O’Reilly, for example he has a beautiful set of methods to extract the value from his work on the net — seminars, books, etc.

Its all about the business model….

04.30.06 @ 5:13 pm

A Comment by Aner Ravon

The problem is see with looking through the business model prism is that it too often overlooks the potential of real value providing companies at the earlier stage of their life cycle. Without recycling the Google, Skype and MySpace cliche’s, it is clear their value was not through their mainstream business model. Many companies, as a matter of fact most successful companies I know had to flip flop business models as they grew and as the business environment changed. This magic word called “potential” still means a lot, even if it misleads from time to time. It’s mainly subject to the more nucleus value - and how can put our hands on that?

05.02.06 @ 4:30 am

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